Uncle Helen was absolutely right to get rid of the A4. Whilst it's great to wax lyrical about 'the time when' and having an orgasm (poor old Kiwi Chick!) from seeing one, the need for the A4 was long past in 1999 if not before. NZ is a very small player in the world and use the dets to be noticed; not influence, but be noticed. The days of Wigwam and Hobnobville are long past - it's an ugly place here in the 21st century but feel free to join us!