FliegerTiger - whether it is the company or the management that is held in disdain is a very fine distinction from where I sit. Nonetheless, we will no doubt have the opportunity to discuss the issues further on the company forum in private later on. When the ballot result is announced, I and numerous others would be keen to know the specifics of the offer that is being turned down and also what the Berlin crews would regard as an acceptable outcome. Many thanks in anticipation.