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Old 7th Oct 2002, 08:46
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VR-HFX
 
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As for the Joker system: so far it has a 100% success record.
With 1700+ pilots requesting 20400 days off every year,
Id say they've done pretty well.
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This is simple math not insider info.

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By the way, can you ask someone about my retirement fund?
Can you ask why it is worth the same now as it was 3 years
ago and I have been putting into it for 3 years. I will admit I
am a Pilot and not an investment banker.
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I fear you don't have to be an investment banker to work it out.
Apart from property (not in HK of course) most investments have
taken a dive over the past 12 months tracking the global equity
markets. Most fund managers play the index game and will swear
on a stack of bibles they have done you well if they have beaten
the index...up or down. Not much you can do about it I am afraid
except stick pins in voodoo dolls and hope the world is soon rid
of the greedy w#nkers that have the gall to call themselves
investmnet bankers.

Ref:Adelaide
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The recent change was initiated as a result of feedback from
course participants, of which there are different types. Some
are cadets, some are direct entry pilots on finesse courses,
and there are pilots doing just handling courses and Command
skills courses. Previously, these groups had been paid different
rates, which is obviously ILLOGICAL since the cash allowance is
meant for the same purpose.
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I would think this is analagous to overnight allowances rather
than pay scales although I agree with you that things need to
be straightened out. I will probably be roasted at the stake for
suggesting A scalers push this barrow but it is the only way to
get some harmony and unity back into the pilot body.

For technical reasons it is not practical to merge the two
retirement schemes. One scheme gets closed off to new entrants
at a certain time and a new scheme started. BA also did this.

The scheme has to be matched to the COS otherwise you could
end up in a situation where the whole thing could go belly up
with younger guys losing all their super pay-ins to fund A-scale
retirements. Get someone more skilled than I to explain how this works.

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Fact. Look how many guys got Category B for their Commands.
How about the Captain that just got busted down the F/O because
he does not agree with the way the company did things and he
expressed his view on the Flight Deck and the pilots turned him in.
Do you really expect anybody to go to these forums and say what
is on their mind?
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Expressing one's view on the flight deck used to go no further.
It is a sad testimony to the times we live in that the Kai Tak
Convention is now broken so easily. Personally I would feel
safer mouthing off in an open forum than on the flight deck
these days. The question you rightly ask though.....is how safe?

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