I don't think pilots pull up when they get disoriented unless they are very knew at flying. I saw a Bonanza take off from Burbank, lose an engine, pull up and turn right into a cross control stall that caused them to spin in killing 4 people. More experienced pilots wouldn't have done that. Hopefully some day they will give us some meaningful information of what led up to this accident. So far they haven't told us much of anything even though they have all of the data. We have a lot of experts expounding on their theories with no data however. BOAC, I'm not saying you.