Yes....
In short then we have lost two similar aircraft in short order due to loss of control of basic pitch attitude, despite the power to recover being at the pilots fingertips and staring him/her in the eyes... that Trim Wheel, the elephant in the cockpit.
Which raises many questions, one of which must be:-
Why are the many training bodies not addressing recovery from stalls (of all styles and reasons), rather than simply illustrating their avoidance and prevention.
Another would be:
Why is the THS given this much automatic command and power in inappropriate situations... a THS reaching above a given NU setting, close to maximum, say 10 degrees; should have had a very specific cockpit warning as it runs through that threshold:
<<Eee Aw Eee Aw>> "THS 10 degrees NU and increasing"
If not before, certainly after Perpignan ... and NU trimmed near-stall incidents are probably more numerous than we know about.
Gatwick and Schiphol are two mentioned somewhere on these forums.
Low slung podded engines combined with a heavily NU THS can get you there... and that's not a good place to be, even at 35,000 ft.in this case.
Last edited by HarryMann; 24th Jun 2011 at 22:50.