and everyone, please watch your backs. At least one v.senior management pilot has been heard wanting to sack everyone who voted No in the lead in to this, and I bet there's more. Obviously you can't do that, but I wouldn't want to get him in the sim if I were sticking my neck out on the non-anonymous boards. Added to the summary execution/check-your-six culture we're already got, and you've all the ingredients for a real pleasant summer coming up...