Otterman; please understand there is nothing personal to you in my posts, you do seem to have reaped the worst of my frustration!! It is appreciated that you do post here to give us a window to the other side.
I should point out that BALPA did not have an input to the terms agreed between KLM and the VNV, they were contacted by the VNV yes....... to be presented with the deal!! BALPA tried to initiate discussions before then but were told they could not talk until the KLC seniority and T and C issue had been resolved.
This week FVP has made it even harder to move to BUZZ, he has stated that any pilots transfering post nov 1st will lose their increments and have to have new T and Cs!!!!!! a Euro 25,000 loss to some people!
Believe me, we are having a rough time of it at the moment, last year when KLC expanded and we were forced to make pilots and ground staff redundant with the reduction of fleet size by 3 aircraft, this year KLC get the bonus of KLM T and Cs and salaries, we get our lives turned upside down and screwed!! It does feel like we are financing KLCs good fortune, that is the reason for my "racist" comment, the dutch are being protected and we are being forced to pay.
I am sure there are many fine and good people in KLM and KLC, and i truly wish them no harm, by the same i hope that my colleagues in KLM and KLC will wake up to the injustice being done here and support us in our fight.
Last edited by driver1; 2nd October 2002 at 18:59.