Doesn't matter what industry you work in there will always be negativity. If there is a forum for wannabe train drivers they too would be sharing the same views posted on PPRuNE. Point being, businesses are struggling and it's even harder for the younger generation to break into any skilled career. It's how the individual deals with the negativity and what they do about it. Personally i believe surrounding yourself by too much negativity i.e PPRuNE can force you into being a pessimist. Having said that, you've got to love the banter on here sometimes!