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Old 31st May 2011, 22:15
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The common thread throughout is that 'even an ab-initio PPL should have been able to recognize and recover this stall'.

In my flight testing I have had the experience of recovering from a fully developed stall on partial panel when the b$tard sitting next to me has applied full aft trim. Easy, if you know what the aircraft is doing.

It is a different kettle of fish if the the manual tells you, that for no speed info, you apply nose-up and power. At altitude this is going to take you to a stall, then, with (hidden) full aft trim, no stall warning and a TOGA power pitch-up couple you are probably flying an unrecoverable aircraft.

These pilots weren't stupid, there but for the grace ....
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