AF447 Thread No. 3

[bearfoil]

bonjour ami

takata........

Hi bear,
Quote:
Originally Posted by bearfoil
"...Many posts discuss the continuous back stick..."
Please show where in the BEA report this is stated.......

0210:05...The airplane began to roll to the right and the PF made a (ONE) left nose-up input.
0210:51...The thrust levers were positioned in the TO/GA detent and the PF maintained nose-up inputs (Plural, more than one) ...The PF continued to make nose-up input(s). The airplane’s altitude reached its maximum of about 38,000 ft...
0211:40...The PF made an input on the sidestick to the left and nose-up stops, which lasted about 30 seconds.
[French: 0211:40...Le PF exerce une action sur le manche en butée à gauche et à cabrer, qui dure environ 30 secondes.]
"en butée à gauche et à cabrer"= full deflection, stick left and nose-up (during 30 seconds)."
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AoA is sensitive to airflow in more than one direction. Initially, what appears to be a bunk move may be an aviator's attempt to hold altitude and airspeed in remarkable AIR. He has a/s to barter, and adds TOGA for good measure.

Let's for goodness' sake lose this barking dog mentality, and give the PF some credit.

I read from BEA that the PF made REPEATED inputs (NU), not sustained.....

different perspective.......

What would explain the need for constant roll left, to maintain SL?

damage? AIR ? cg? Likewise NU? cg? ICE? All we see is the response, not the stimulus.