Otterman; lets just put the record straight shall we?
KLM and the VNV negotiated a deal where the KLC pilots get mainline t and c, part of that was the integration of the KLMuk pilots who , have no right to KLM but can apply, IF accepted they go to the bottom of the KLM master list, KLC uk is set up, the KLMuk pilots are FORCED to split from Buzz and placed in this "shell company", by your own admision klc uk will shrink and die as there will be no future in it, our pension is under threat, we are paid far less that you, there is no guarantee that should an aircraft be replaced on a route (MAN F100 to B737 for example) that the pilots based at MAN will get a change of aircraft type at base, therefore could and I suspect will be force base moved to AMS, KLC expanded post sept 11, we were forced to make pilots and ground staff redundant, there is NO guarantee of a transfer to BUZZ, even so many pilots are regionally based and have no desire to move to STN, BUZZ pilots have NO right to move to KLC uk, we are changing to KLM SOPs as it will be required that we mix crews with KLC, do you find it acceptable that a KLCuk Captain could be flying with a KLC First Officer who will ALWAYS have better T and Cs and ALWAYS be senior to the captain as far as KLM is concerned?
In all Otterman as I said before we are being royally SHAFTED, the deal that the VNV and KLM has put foward is TOTALLY unacceptable if not bordering on the down right racist!!! We deserve nothing less than the integration terms offered to NLM now KLC.
As you mentioned before BA is making an equal mess of its integration of pilots, i so hope that BA takes over KLM and BALPA screw KLM pilots into the ground, not only to the bottom of the list, but with crap T and Cs. You guys have laid down the ground rules, i hope you are prepared for the concequences.
There is a solution to this, you STOP being so damn right selfish and give the KLMuk guys the rights they deserve.