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Old 29th Sep 2002, 19:42
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charlie-india-mike
 
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Thanks for the reply's.

I don't want to identify the airfield at this point but it is ATC and not A/G


The full senario is as as follows

The airfield was busy with loads of aircraft asking for circuits

CIM: Parked, fan turning, all checks completed, ready to go
Call ATC G-XXXC good morning. expect G-XXXX pass message

ATC: "G-XXXX, taxi to holding point A1 via XXX cleared to cross YYY"

CIM: A bit confused but understand the clearence and start taxi to A1 (I thought that ATC may have known my intentions via telephone from my instructor.) On the way to the holding point...

ATC: "G-XXXX pass your meaasge"

Not expecting anything from ATC until power/take off checks done.
I'm now a bit confused. R/T busy at this point

CIM: "G-XXXX I didn't call"

ATC: "G-XXXX, I'm calling you! Pass your message"

I now realise that ATC want my details and intentions

CIM: details passed

All else as per the book, power checks complete, take off clearence given, take off and complete about 3 or 4 touch and go's. Circuit is busy with 4 or 5 others doing the same thing. (plus heli's on the other side) Round and round we go, happy as sand boys

Circuit in question:

CIM: "G-XXXX , downwind XX for touch and go"

ATC: "G-XXXX, number 3 to a YYY on final and ZZZ late downwind, follow ZZZ in front"

CIM: " Number 3, follow ZZZ"

Another aircraft G-AAAA turns downwind

G-AAAA: "G-AAAA, downwind XX for touch and go"

ATC: "G-AAAA, number 4 to a YYY,ZZZ,PA28 (CIM) follow PA28 in front.

G-AAAA: "Number 4 follow PA28"

Downwind and Base uneventfull , YYY cleared and lands, ZZZ turns base then final and reports. CIM turns final and reports

CIM: "G-XXXX, final for runway XX"

ATC: "G-XXXX. number 2 ,continue approach"

CIM: "G-XXXX, number 2 , continue approach"

ATC: "ZZZ, surface wind xxxx, cleared to land"

ZZZ: "G-ZZZZ, cleared to land"

G-AAAA: "G-AAAA, final for runway XX"

ATC: "G-AAAA, continue approach"

G-AAAA: "Continue approach"

ZZZ does his touch and go. CIM now at 300' on approach and expects clearence. No such luck.

The next transmission took me by suprise!!!!!

ATC: "G-AAAA, surface wind xxx, cleared to land runway xx"

G-AAAA: " G-AAAA, cleared to land, runway XX"

CIM is now confused and at 100'

CIM: " G-XXXX, does G-XXXX have clearence to land"

ATC: " G-XXXX, negitave"

At this point I decided that it was time for some positive action on my part and initiated a go around. Got the aircraft climbing and configured for the go around

CIM: "G-XXXX, going around"

ATC: "G-XXXX , garbel, garbel"

CIM: " G-XXXX, say again"

ATC: "G-XXXX, garbel, garbel"

CIM: "G-XXXX, say again, I don't understand"

No further communication between CIM and ATC until next downwind when all went by the book.


I don't understand why the aircraft behind me was cleared to land before me and I don't know why there was no reply to my last transmission. I can only summise that as the field was busy that the ATC got 2 aircraft mixed up??????
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