No Grange, I'm right and you're wrong. I recall that you've made previous posts (from about a year ago), gleefully stating that there would be no "scabs" employed by the world's airlines. I have not made the above post to rub salt in what is an apparent open wound for you. The above post is only there to inform the aviation community of the employment situation for the Ansett ('89-'01) pilot body. I suppose that the thread will now be hijacked by the usual bitter and twisted suspects.