greybeard..........mmaaaateeee
We didn't lose XX, we won by a 1300/347 majority, which most Powers That Be only dream of.
then there was the 500+ that went overseas. what was different between the contracts SQ, CX, GF, SV, MH, Thai International, Lauda, Swiss Air, Sud Flug, KLM City Hopper, Vietnam Airlines, Lufthansa, that the 500 signed up for and that of the 347 that stayed behind ? your creative accounting style doesn't fool anyone here - the real figure was 1300/847 majority and when you work out the number of pilots who retired early and those who were too inexperienced to get jobs overseas (my brother) the remaining balance of 400+ would have rounded out the total and given that "majority" of yours more authenticity!
Then Behold and Lo, we were all allowed to "go back".
poor greybeard waiting with bated breath for the messiah to give the all clear. very sad, a lot of pilots took hold of their own destiny when it appeared the AFAP had lost the plot - that simple.
The trick is to endure, have some moral backbone and to be true to your beliefs however tuff it gets, not whinge about how things were lost, never won, losers etc
no argument with you there. the pilots that went overseas did endure and bit the bullet. as with the guys that returned to their rightful jobs back in Oz. and SO DID the pilots who never got back into the industry - please never forget those chaps - they are deserved of the greatest accolades - they were the sacrificial lambs in that whole sordid affair.
last for you 'lekie
. Yet the AFAP survives.
get down to MB one of these days and ask the GA pilots how much industrial clout they feel the AFAP has. then have a think about the definition of "survival"!