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Old 25th September 2002 | 08:31
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FlyingForFun

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P. Pilcher,

The subject of P1/S has been discussed many times on these forums before, especially in Private Flying. But I've never heard anyone suggest that it can be logged in a multi-pilot aircraft before!

The usual question is whether it can be logged when flying with an instructor, but not for instruction or a test, e.g. for a checkout at a new club. The usual answer is that opinion is split 50/50 yes/no. GID44 is the document which describes how to log your time. The only place which GID44 says you can log P1/S is for a flight test, if you pass the test. However, it doesn't explicitly preclude you from logging P1/S at other times, and it doesn't suggest any particular way of logging time with an instructor when it is neither instruction nor a test. Which is why opinion is so split on this issue.

Off the top of my head, I don't know what the document says about logging time as a co-pilot when acting as pilot-flying. I would have thought that this is logged as P2, but since I'm a long way off being able to fly multi-pilot aircraft myself, I haven't really researched it! But I would suggest that you read GID44 and see what it says. If it does say anything at all, you should do as it says - it certainly doesn't say you can log P1/S, though, because I'd have noticed that when researching the whole P1/S issue. If it doesn't say anything, then you're in the same boat as us PPLs wanting to log time with an instructor, i.e. I suspect that opinion would be fairly well split.


To answer the original question, though - I was under the impression that P1/S time goes in the "In command" column in your log book, and therefore counts exactly the same way as P1 time? The only difference, I thought, is that by one of you logging P1/S, both pilots can record time in the "In command" column - something which is not allowed under other circumstances under the JARs (although the FARs do allow it).



When will the CAA clarify the situation? It really is quite ridiculous the number of times this subject comes up, and the fact that there's no difinitive answer.

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