" Considering the offers, why do you feel as an ATSA that you should be given the same rise as everyone else? "
Point taken, however the point I way trying to make perhaps badly was / is this, the Core offer across the Company should be the same, the T & C's argument I take on board, RPI (minimum) should be the same across the company though and then T & C's on top, I'm not clear how the ATCO T & C changes can be worth 1.2% more than the rest of the Co. Prospect nor any of the other Unions (if PCS did) should not have gone back to the management on their own. When Management approached Prospect with a better offer earlier this week and Prospect agreed to talk this was the moment in my opinion when they let the rest of us down, sticking together may well have got you the better AAVA deal many of you are still after as well, they should have said no and stuck together with the other Unions as I'm sure you would like to think PCS etc would if this had happened the other way round. The general feeling was that the Unions had management on the ropes to a large extent for the first time in a long time, Prospect let them off them.
Lastly to reply to the 4 / 5% comment, we haven't been offered 4% no strings, we have an offer which changes our working week extending it by half an hour, doesn't sound much until you multiply it up, in very simplistic terms that's another 26 hours a year or 3 more days at work for no more money possibly ! We are being asked to give up our current overtime agreement (for a bung) for a fixed payment one that for me at least is worse than the terms I'm on now, even more importantly the new overtime agreement is also non pensionable, our current one is.