MANTOVANI - My point exactly. I thought the writing in of an in perptuity AAVA agreement would raise a lot more heartrates than it has. So what, we write in an AAVA agreement for such a small margin on our pay deal, and then we have nothing to bargain with, except perhaps Annual leave. Surely this is not acceptable? Let us not get to such a weak position. We are in a very strong position right now, what with Olympics next year, IFACTS, EFD. If we wanted we could have management exactly where we want them. But we can only do this by showing a united front. Please colleagues, think of the BIGGER PICTURE!!!!