Stoppers, I don't think that the Air Force would be that spiteful/manage it, so as PVR times go up by as much as you say in a 4 month period. That being said, stranger things have happened. I guess its one of those make or break decisions! Nonetheless, Good luck to you, here's hoping BA start recruiting DE FO non TR chaps soon. I wonder if a lot of people are going to leave when the airline market picks up and if the numbers will take manning by surprise?