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Old 18th September 2002 | 12:37
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rhythm method
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when CityFlyer were bought out by BA, your guys fought hard to ensure that the ex-CFE pilots had their terms and conditions IMPROVED to those at EOG. We don't see that happening this time, now do we?

Perhaps rather than using scope as a big stick to beat us not-so-worthy types into submission, why don't your company council fight to have our terms and conditions fully integrated. Thereby we can actually stand up to management on all issues together and speak with one voice as it were? This would knock on the head the argument that we are stealing your routes, aircraft and thus opportunities. Indeed the opposite would actually be true. Our younger guys who want to fly the scroggs wonderjet can go in that direction, your guys who want to stay in the regions will not have to have any sweetners added into their paypackets as there isn't any loss of income, and hopefully we'll see no more of "them and us" arguing.

Unfortunately, that will require BACC to stop some of their underhand 'negotiating' techniques when dealing with BACE CC. Up until now, they have been hiding facts or at times even being blatantly deceptive to the point of telling 'untruths'!

It seems to me that BACE can be considered part of BA when it suits (freeze on recruitment to help BA's budget, no profit share paid out even though nearly £10m profit achieved by us... this was actually swallowed up in BA losses) or we aren't BA when it comes to scope, etc. MAKE UP YOUR BL**DY MINDS!!!

As for the other posting regarding pensions, our new guys have already been denied access to our final salary scheme by our new BA management! Our existing scheme may itself be under threat! So it seems to me that a unified voice would be to the benefit of the WHOLE pilot workforce whether scum like us in BACE or gods from mainline.

Rant over!
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