photofly:
I got that - I was wondering about the argument over descents over POM. That makes no sense to me, and I was wondering if I was missing something that might be helpful.
Originally, it was about descending SE bound on V-197 to POM, then fly the KEMT VOR-A IAP. The course reversal hold would be required, and it lies beneath the Los Angeles Class B airspace. You would have to be below the airspace the the Los Angeles sector of SoCal owns, which is above So Cal's Ontario sector. There was apparently a lot of disagreement about that. Then, the focus on that aspect was lost.
aterpster: question about your posting with the Bardufoss plate. How *do* the designers expect you to use BDF hold to align for the RWY 28 teardrop, since it's the wrong way?
The holding pattern provides a lot of airspace to enter either the Runway 10 or 28 IAPs. In the case of 28 you would enter the hold and when turning outbound align on the outbound leg of the teardrop/baseleg course reversal.