MB - I'm with you 100% except for the bit about seeing 'failure' in Libya. The true brilliance of the Libya thing (conflict, war, intervention, whatever.....) is that we haven't got a defined endstate, so we can't fail - Hoorah!
Unbelievably we've all (UN = 196 countries, so North Korea aren't guilty for once) got ourselves into something without any sort of measurable deliverable (sorry about the business speak) to aim for. One could argue that we're doing this to save civilian lives, we must have saved at least 2 so we've won and can come home. One could also argue that saving civilian lives requires us to stay forever because civilians are dying now and we're not yet saving them all.
If the End State for Libya is an unstable country. divided against itself with insipient slip into civil war imminent then we're doing really well. Tea/Medals anyone?
Genius!!!!!
