So how is the flying training going. Geez your blokes must be up to 5 hours by now. Don't even THINK about bringing in foreign pilots, for a start no QF LAME is going to sign them out. Why don't you try something new. Go down to the hangers, have a chat, ditto the crew rooms, the canteens, tell them what is actually happening, hear what they have to say, and then like Menadue and Yates, you might get the company right behind you to go forward together in difficult times. Nobody doubts the fact that Gillard is about to tax the arse of the airline, as well as thru the fuel, and things are going to get difficult, but if you have the employees on side, hell, it might just turn the ship around, and you don't need to train managers to be check in chicks, cleaners, flight attendants, office boys, and as for Pilots and Engineers forget it. And lastly look at the history of 89, what happened to the country, what happened to the employees, (all of them) and vow it will never happen again, (and before the accusations start, we, the pilots, acknowledge the damage, ok?) We just never want to see it again.