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Old 21st March 2011 | 10:48
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... You should have had your departure clearance already by then, ...
The IFR clearance is not called departure clearance and no one ever uses this term! It may contain the word "departure" at some point (like "XY-Air123 cleared to London Stanstead via the Olno 3 Alpha departure, climb FL 70 and squak 1234") - but it is called "ATC clearance".
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