Come on Mr Turtle, you know how we are in Oz, very very particular we are. There are rules to follow, lots of rules and of course procedures, yes especially the procedures. Can't cut corners you know, every thing must be very carefully studied. We are in the final stages, just checking to see if the crews were actually displaying their EK IDs at the time of the incident. Then there is the cricket, we'll have another look at the report after the long weekend...