Capetonian, to imply that ever mattered to me is a long walk off a short pier, respect is a personalised notion & you just fell into the same trap as Pop.
Parapunter, maybe if you spent some time trying to understand others' points of view, and disagreeing with a bit more respect, rather than setting 'traps', you might be a more welcome participant in the discussion. As it is, I feel you are about as welcome as pork ribs at a mosque!
Discussion is not about 'setting traps'.