Chris
Please don't make any experiments based on any of my posts.
What I mean is that when the time to retard comes (acording to my brain calculated and brain-plus-seat-of-the-pants felt) I sometimes do it like in two steps. Sometimes by the time I feel the moment has come, the moment came a second before so I slam the thrust levers to idle. But if I see it coming well in advance, I progresively retard the donuts till slightly above thrust and then at the exact moment I retard the rest. It is not really a two step, it is rather a progressive way of doing it.
The seat of the pants plus brain calculated thing takes practice.