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Old 26th Jan 2011, 11:23
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RockShock
 
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SadPole & probie

Originally Posted by SadPole
Very good – here is the video.

Go to 14:03 in the video. In there, under timestamp 8:40:47 there are three phrases:
1. PIC We are leaving for second circle (aka goaround command)
2. 2nd – GoAround.
3. Navigator: 80,70,60, 50

Problem is – None of these phrases should have been stamped with 8:40:47. It's a mistake or misinformation. Due to the fact that Polish timestamps were shifted by timezone and about 2.5[s] – different time settings in Polish FDR, it led to three different versions of transcripts regarding where exactly was that critical GoAround command was supposed to take place,
That is irrelevant. If the Polish transcript will be shifted, it will be shifted from the beginnning to an end. It is a problem for the journalists trying to match transcripts from few different sources. Yet, you already managed in this thread to bash the still-alive-Kaczynski, the already-dead-Kaczynski, accuse his supporters of tampering with the tapes and the Polish commisions of trying to deny the blame of the pilot for the accident. You did this all based on the 'transcript' rewritten by journo by hand from the slides and you accused the commision of the lack of professionalism releasing such transcript (while in fact they haven't yet released anything)

Someone then tried to place it altogether with Russsian transcript, and ended up with multiple "goarounds" by 2nd pilot, among many other things.
That is the problem of the journalist putting together the info, but you were accusing the commision of stitching the tapes together just to fit them into the official Polish picture of the accident that cannot blame the pilots at all.

Meaning – we had a TECHNICAL mystery to solve and we solved it here at this website, together, with all the different "teams" participating. A very good use of the resources of this website, wouldn't you agree?
No, you have an agenda of mixing political opinions and ideas with evidence and accusing the evidence of being false if they don't suit your theory. I don't know who you refer to by 'we' but your posts did nothing more than shifted the discussion from facts to political gossip.

The Polish commission should have published the complete new transcript before publishing the "preliminary presentation" with new phrases which then resulted in journalists producing different new transcripts.
That is your problem and the problem of journalists. If you decide to conduct your arguments based on the transcripts produced by a newspaper, rather than wait for official report - and you want thus to discredit this report even before it sees the daylight - that is your problem

probie:
in other words: no pressure, as the crew were used to non-sterile cockpit. Doesn't make things look better?
No, it doesn't make the things look better and there are obvious negligences on the Polish military side - nobody here denies that. However, this makes the whole MAK report conclusions irrelevant, as they concluded the pressure on the pilot was the main cause of the crash. That is why a Polish report with a complete transcript will be interesting to complete the picture.
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