Ok, there is already a huge discussion about the fact that the PV will not allow contractors. For a reason I fully understand (trying to by pass KTV) , I guess there will never be a single contractor flying for 4U. The martinair story is a different one. You are right EAM. PAS and the applicants do all the effort and at the end nothing happens. The future will show but I wouldn't count on it. been there, done it and I was dissapointed many times.