Loosers
You hit it right on the head Gypsy, as long as you are afraid of what your actions can "undo" you will always be a looser and you will always have to pick-up the crumbs, At least the Cathay pilots took their management on in a real action. The actions of the SIA pilots are very loud in the crewrooms around the world and even louder in the pinetree club, but when it comes to real action there is nobody to be seen. And this of course is very well known by the guys accros the table. So as I said before, take what's being offered, sit in economy, fly 18 hours, and be happy you have a job. Also be ready for much more degrading down the line, because he who turns the other cheeck will be hammered on it!!! (Old bibical quote from the WWF handbook)