For all you indignant newbies on here, this whole thing was debated on Post 174 on Page 9 here
http://www.pprune.org/military-aircr...ml#post4803811
in March 2009!
Can we leave it out now, rather than have more unbridled indignation about something that was apparently said (or misquoted) back in the mists of time!
Foldie