I could not agree more RichT, however I doubt that the latest batch of Ryanair cadets are in any way comparable to the likes of Guy Gibson (A gifted pilot/ planner/ leader). Trying to defeat the Nazis and flying for Ryanair are two completely different kettles of fish.
DIKAS, the reason why I feel the need to have a pop is because of the lofty attitudes and misguided loyalty displayed by yourselves. Also you choose to post your grumbles on an open forum for the rest of us to read. Maybe you should think about posting on a private forum (no RYR private forum on prune?).