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Old 26th Aug 2002, 09:22
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HotDog, some comments to your post from 8-23 (sorry, no ppruning on weekend for me) :

Of course the Airbus door post from JBS hat nothing to do with the China Airlines crash, but nevertheless some of your remarks are not quite correct :

There are at least two accidents where people were killed by cabin doors opened while the fuselage was still pressurized.
A door is called plug type if ´a component of the initial opening movement of the door is inward´ (see the acording AC / ACJ).
This must not neccesarily mean the MAIN component is inward, so it is pricipally posible to open such a door under pressure, it´s just a question of force. Generally speaking the Airbus doors are much easyer to open than Boeing ones (just look at the flight attendents to see the difference), so it is possible for a powerfull person to open the door when slightly pressurized.
There is not just an indication on the flight deck, there is a warning light in every door window of the Airbus to be seen from inside and from outside to warn the person operating the door. Think for yourself, does such a warning light makes sense if
all modern pressurized airplanes are plug type doors that cannot blow out like the cargo door scenario Barry describes in his diatribe.
???

The next point is your comparison between bodies sucked into an engine and bird strike damages. The big difference is the impact speed, so bird strike damage of a 4 lb bird impacting with 300 kts is quite different to an 150 lb person impacting with 10 kts (or something like this if you have just left the plane some 20 ft in front of the engine), because impact energy is 24 times higher !
The damge to the engine after sucking in a body must not be very large, and not even be detectable after the engine felt down 40000 ft from the sky.

Let´s hope for some new facts on the China Air accident before the last member leaves this JBS-cargo-door-topic ...
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