Sorry chaps for being rude, I am still working long haul flying and apart from being on the run all the time I don't know how to photobucket or whatever you call it. I am retiring next May and would love to join you here. I must say, you are all very good, I thought I knew my aeroplanes but some of the types here I've never heard of. Next year I'll get my daughter to endorse me on 'cyber secrets'. Merry Xmas too you all.