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Old 26th Nov 2010, 09:15
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High_Expect
 
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Ground terminology

Hi, there is an on going discussion point at a military base regarding correct terminology. I appears “our” ATC guys are understanding the CAP in a different way to all of my aircrew brethren.

When requesting taxi we often get told.
“…99 cleared taxi to the 13 hold, holding short of 19”
My understanding is that if runway 19 comes before the 13 hold (which it does) and you don’t want me to cross it don’t issue a clearance to the 13 hold. Surely something along the line of “Taxi for Rwy 13 holding short of 19” would be a less ambiguous call – isn’t that ultimately what all communication from ATC should be – unambiguous.
Also if told
“taxi for the 13 hold” with no mention of holding short of any runway (the taxi routes here are set and we tell ATC where we are when we start) surely that automatically clears me to cross runway 19. - You’ve given a clearance all the way to the 13 hold so I’m off.
I welcome thoughts from anyone who has ingested the CAP or any ATC standards people?

Regards,

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