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Old 21st Nov 2010, 11:59
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crewsunite
 
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Life at ACC is not happy..

http://www.pprune.org/terms-endearme...cargo-schedule

For EG..


Clondnine's vitriolic rant of deception and falsification
Before I respond to Clondnine's vitriolic rant of deception and falsification, I would like to qualify myself as being a person able to respond with some authority on the subject;

I fly the 330 at Air China. Our package stiplulates that we have days off at our respective base OUT of China. However, we layover at the Crowne Plaza when in PEK. None of the 330 guys would entertain the shameful Air China Cargo (ACC) package, which is NOT as advertised. Even our respectable contract is constantly tampered with by the Chinese. The Chinese seem to revel in causing grief with the foreigners contract and lifestyle.

I am very familiar with the ACC operation, having spoken to some of the cargo pilots and one in particular who lived at the Crowne Plaza at his own expense rather than take a lease on an apartment - ACC will not tell you until you arrive, you MUST sign a lease and provide a deposit for an apartment in order to be issued a Residence Visa.
Clondnine conveniently neglected to inform readers of this fact when responding to another thread on the subject of apartment rental in PEK.

With regard to ACC provided hotels, Clondnine states: "In Dubai and Europe, it is 4-5 star"

Absolute tripe. The hotel in FRA is NOT even a hotel. It is an apartment building where pilots are expected to take their own clean towels! cook their own food and wash the bedsheets of the prior occupant! AND suffer the incessant smoking of the Chinese crew with whom you will share the apartment building. ALL of the foreign 330 pilots refused to stay at this 'hotel'.

With regard to the "sacked" Captain. Clondnine states: "The captain who was sacked, refused to remove his bag from the emergency exit when requested to do so by a Chinese FO. Expletives were used by said foreign captain"

Utter tripe. The Captain was NOT "sacked". He left PEK on his days off after ACC kept him in limbo after the incident. I spoke with this Captain several times during this period. True, this Captain had placed his bag in front of an Emergency Exit and did refuse to move it, but this was DURING THE CRUISE. The bag was removed prior to top of descent.
During the approach into VIE the Chinese F/O lectured this Captain about not placing his bag in front of an exit. The Captain raised his voice in order to restore a sterile cockpit. Additonally, the F/O was smoking on the aircraft both in the air and on the ground in VIE, with Cargo Aircraft Only, Dangerous Good on board. This caused the Captain to speak to the F/O once more. Having spoken to the F/O, the F/O then decided that would not participate in his duties and sulked like a child. The F/O also continued to smoke on the aircraft!
On returning to PEK the Captain, rightly, submitted a report of the matter.
The Captain included in his report that the Tech Log entries were all in Chinese and he was unable to determine the status of the aircraft without interpretation.

As a consequence of his report he was removed from duties for failing to remove his bag from an emergency exit! To my knowledge, this Captain has not been paid owing salary and allowances. This, combined with the deception of the contract changes on arrival, would cause anyone to become angry and argumentative.

Clondnine, perhaps you are submissive and subservient by nature or preference. Are you possibly also too frightened to complain when you are treated badly? However, you have the affront to state you would not wish to sit next this Captain even as a passenger. Having completed even the most basic course in CRM, readers will realize that from your post, you personally demonstrate weak, if any, leadership qualities (IF you are a Captain).

The Austrian BMVIT, Austro Control, were made aware of the incident invovling the F/O's conduct and other shortcomings at ACC. Austro Control have regularly ramp-checked ACC aircraft and fined ACC for various violations.

Clondnine states: "had flown for many respected, and long established flag carriers in the last four years, and is no longer working for any of them. This should have been picked up by ACC, but they will no better next time"

Pompous tripe. The recently recruited ACC Captains were ALL sacked from airlines. Namely, JAL, Atlas and Asiana. In fact, the Korean pilots sacked from Asiana all returned to Korea recently to attend court hearings regarding their sacking from Asiana.
Most of the foreign pilots working in China have flown for many airlines.
If ACC follow Clondnine's absurd suggestion, they will have even fewer applicants than they have now!

Clondnine states: "Roster is produced on a Saturday for the following week"
Tell me Clondnine, are you not even slightly embarassed by admitting this?

Additionally, Clondnine draws attention to the 'junior' Captain status in place at ACC. I am aware that one of the two Captains promoted to 'full' Captain status, who practically lives in the foreign pilot administrative office, completed only a 20 minute sim check during which the weather was VFR and no engines were failed! This is entirley contrary to industry standard PIC checks.
The other promoted Captain regularly flies to FRA and willingly accepts the disgusting apartment accommodation.
Clearly, ACC award the 'full' Captain status to those who insert their noses in smelly places. Such a regime is quite abhorrent.

All the ACC foreign Captains to whom I have spoken, are actively seeking alternative employment.

Further, Clondnine would have you believe he is a pilot. From reading some of his "recruitment" postings, I believe he is on this site purporting to be a pilot only to promote his own interests as an agency representative. Much to the detriment of improved conditons and associated quality of life of pilots - something you will NOT achieve at ACC. However, you will be paid accordingly at the expense of your personal and family life. You can watch your children grow-up via Skype!

In previous postings when someone has dared to disagree with Clondnine, he has either cried for the moderator, or, as related to this thread, called the reply rubbish and lies.

Clondnine, I think it is best that you return to 'FaceSpace' where your bedwetting schoolgirl, bullying, might have more chance to intimidate.

Sincerely,

DB
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