sorry there bellfest ol' son, i didn't mean to start WWIII. just a quick jab back at what looked like a bit of a put down.
i think you will find that a correctly set up multi user AOC does have all the correct paperwork and more than is usually the case in a single entity company. I would suggest that in the corporate and small to medium RPT world that it might commonly be used.
such procedures should be in place for every crosshired aircraft and be able to be demonstrated by your HAAMC the aircraft servicing requirements in an audit. It may be serviced by another workshop, bringing into place another agreement which must be on file.
if the AC came with a pilot the Chief pilot must record those pilots' hours for the last twelve months and his currencies as per usual. The AOC therefore is a multi user AOC. As I say i think you will find the practice very common and blustering about it's use, is utter nonsense.
CASA is too short staffed to check every small operator, you would know that some of them draw criticism by going only to those operators parked on an airfield beside a RPT service rather than out bush. It makes sense to have at least the representation that one chief pilot can give to many others to make CASA's work a lot easier. it makes good safety sense to provide a mentoring service to those remote operators rather than have them operate in isolation and become seriously cloistered in their thinking.
I expect to be rung and have been a few times by CASA, with, "is so and so working under your AOC?" i can easily email immediatly the correct forms of agreement, F/D time and pilot currency details as required. in fact I have said to the CASA dude who rings that I would like to hear those enquiries more often re the outlaws.
No big company with any brains would provide the service for operators who may become their opposition for sure.
apart from that if you have ever tried to start up an AOC and watch your business vaporise while you wait for documentation you would know that something legal is needed to fill that gap.
I've been around long enough to know the old adage about self praise being no recommendation, spare me, I didn't / wouldn't push that far. but it is a fact that many specialist are simply that in one field.
not every one is a specialist, less often in the mustering game than other fields say, do you get those who sail off into an impeccable reputation sunset with never having to pull that special something out of their backside when it is put upon them, but there are passengers here as anywhere.
In fact with a quick and crude edit, i could say the country side is becoming rather littered with them and their wreckages.
re the private ownership verse the company owned aircraft, of course 99% of pilots are fastidious and careful regardless. but the difference of private ownership is something that I have often seen, and the peer pressure that goes with not letting your mates down, because they know the costs and the risks much more than an ordinary employee does.
Besides I can easily prove this section of the argument with something that we can all relate to, just tell me where you see a company car looked after as well as the employees own car. touche.
cheers tet.
Last edited by topendtorque; 19th Nov 2010 at 19:10.
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