Please do not compare Ryanair to Vueling as it quite different.
For you passengers reading this your safety flying on Vueling will not be affected this is a debate between pilots. OK ? Vueling is currently safe and many good people
In fact Vuelings flight data monitoring program and SMS, SRS system is the best in Spain.
The level 6 Co-pilots will make between 1800 and 2,000 Euros as they will fly.
Yes I do not like it all, yes its crap and it´s not acceptable. None has yet been contracted.
The best thing is do not apply to Vueling until they have gotten rid of this, if you are not Spanish it will be difficult anyway.
All pilots and Experienced FO´s please do accept or apply for this insult.
I understand according to a insider tha there is a verbal agreement and e-mail Vueling to also hire A320 experienced FO´s who will come in at a higher pay scale. ( See the written statement by CEO Alex Cruz below ) As verbal agreements mean nothing these days. This insider has informed me that if the company does not respect this and probably will not., then there will be problems with the union and action would be taken. It´s not over until the fat lady sings.
Personally I find it sickening that there are A-320 experienced Spanish FO´s working overseas who will not come or come back to Vueling because of this poor pay. Does this affect the standard at Vueling yes. This is poor management by Vueling´s COO. Will Vueling get the best people, no, will this affect flight safety standards ? It has damaged Vuelings reputation thats for sure.
Vueling´s COO Luis Gallego does not understand at all how experienced pilots affects Flight Safety and increase the value of a company
If someons could post the link to Valuejet and other examples of low cost accidnet. Amazing since he is the post holder
Will a Vueling TRE- TRI sign off on his license a cadet who is sub standard ?
Vueling has a number of experienced and competent instructors who will make sure only competent FO´s get through the training process.
No. But if they do all Vueling Captains should ( and would I hope ) then write reports denouncing this.Believe meVueling has a lot of experienced Captains who would not accept a sub -par cadet.
A collective agreement has to be taken in it´s
whole context, these new hire low paid co-pilot is part of a wider agreement in which 70% of the pilots in the Sepla union ( the majority ) voted in favor
In the collective agreement there are many improvements such as 12 days off per month, vacations paid ( that were not ), sick leave pay, loss of licences and insurance for all the Clickair
It was negotiated in the collective agreement so that existing pilots within Vueling would get increases. Existing co-pilots pilots from Ex-Clickair received a pay increase of 15 to 20% and the experienced ones remains are 100% of the fleet now. Ex-Vueling Captains also about a 10% increase.
If you do not know what you are writing about please do not post false information
Propaganda E-mail from Vueling CEO Alex Cruz. ( Translate it you like )
Nivel 6
La categoría de entrada de los First Officers es el nivel 6.
Este nivel, con una producción estimada de 850 horas bloque anuales y una retención media, corresponde a un salario superior a los 2.000€ netos mensuales y está principalmente destinado a personas de nueva incorporación con baja experiencia que quieran iniciar su actividad profesional en Vueling (que a su vez, para los que no dispongan de habilitación de tipo del 320, les brindará la oportunidad de acceder a la misma a unos precios más competitivos que lo que podrían encontrar por su cuenta), como hemos hecho en el pasado tanto en la antigua Vueling como en Clickair, y que ha permitido que muchos de vosotros os hayáis podido incorporar a la compañía.
Si por necesidades de crecimiento superior al previsto, que esperemos así suceda con la firma del Convenio, la empresa necesitara contratar First Officers de alta experiencia, se considerará la incorporación de dichas personas a nivel superior al nivel 6.
Tened en cuenta que la creación de este nivel es lo que permitirá a Vueling asumir los fuertes costes que supone la progresión acelerada a nivel I de los FOs tanto provenientes de la antigua Vueling (a la mayoría les quedaban aun años para alcanzarlo) y la posibilidad de extender dicha progresión a los FOs procedentes de Clickair. Además hemos podido mejorar el nivel I actual con una paga de beneficios ligada a los resultados económicos de la empresa.¨"