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Old 12th Nov 2010, 22:49
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Gordy
 
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Interesting read Gordy
I use it with my fire crews....we have a rule that we all count the phrases---once we hit 3, we have a mandatory land and discussion. We actually incorporate into our whole operation now, once they are on the ground and me providing aerial support....we still listen for the phrases.

I have a mini training session at the begining of each season with a crew, (I switch fire crews half way through the year), and I use the Air Florida disaster as an example. (see HERE ) You can see all the "tombstone phrases" in the transcript, I have colored them RED:

The following is a transcript of Flight 90's cockpit voice recorder during the plane's acceleration down the runway. It is evident that the first officer saw a problem with the instrumentation and that the captain shrugged off his concerns. (CAM-1 is the captain, CAM-2 is the first officer)
“15:59:32 CAM-1 Okay, your throttles.
15:59:35 [SOUND OF ENGINE SPOOLUP]
15:59:49 CAM-1 Holler if you need the wipers.
15:59:51 CAM-1 It's spooled. Real cold, real cold.
15:59:58 CAM-2 God, look at that thing. That don't seem right, does it? Uh, that's not right.
16:00:09 CAM-1 Yes it is, there's eighty.
16:00:10 CAM-2 Naw, I don't think that's right. Ah, maybe it is.
16:00:21 CAM-1 Hundred and twenty.
16:00:23 CAM-2 I don't know.
16:00:31 CAM-1 Vee-one. Easy, vee-two.”

As the plane became briefly airborne, the flight recorder picked up the following from the cockpit, with the sound of the stick-shaker (an instrument that warns that the plane is in danger of stalling) in the background:
“16:00:39 [SOUND OF STICKSHAKER STARTS AND CONTINUES UNTIL IMPACT]
16:00:41 TWR Palm 90 contact departure control.
16:00:45 CAM-1 Forward, forward, easy. We only want five hundred.
16:00:48 CAM-1 Come on forward....forward, just barely climb.
16:00:59 CAM-1 Stalling, we're falling!
16:01:00 CAM-2 Larry, we're going down, Larry....
16:01:01 CAM-1 I know it!
16:01:01 [SOUND OF IMPACT]


I also use information from this thread here on Pprune, (admitedly posted by me again). I also have visual pictures I put up to see how they react...they are the visual illusion types.

Human Factors as related to a firefighter death
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