Well said Willie.
On Contacted's quoted paper:
I couldn’t disagree more Contacted. By the way did you READ that paper?
For free markets to work in entirety, the markets, or essentially the business shared between the agreeing parties have to be equally yolked. If they are not, then you adopt as much of the free market system as you can and retain some controls. A lot of countries have “free trade” agreements but maintain duties and importation taxes based on other market factor differences that transcend the countries doing business. If there are such differences, then a Country will employ such controls (for its own self preservation and economy) and release them GRADUALLY as economies become linear.
I quote from your posted paper:
“Airlines profit from increased efficiency derived from economies of scale, eonomies of scope and density economies.”
“Air transport liberalization is a process of gradual abolition of limits on designation, capacity, frequency and tariff setting in civil aviation.”
As Willie so eloquently pointed out, aviation is not linear between the 2 countries in question, nor is any other industry, nor is human rights, nor is labor protection, nor is pension issues, or any societal issues, nor is govt.This is a multi-teir argument that is much larger a picture to look at than purely EK/AC or landing slots.
Canada is already liberal with regards to the market. There are already lots of players at the table. Canada is NOT protecting the market it entirety, it is sharing a lot of it already. This is purely a case of Canada not bending to the wishes of Emirates to have more capacity themselves. This was Canada’s decision to make who serves this market, whether its Emirates or others, but the decision has been made that Emirates will have daily flights to Toronto. And its the same process at LHR, or wherever.
No one is against free market economics, especially Canada. It’s a good paper, but it does not make your point. There are multi factors to consider whenever considering a free market system between 2 countries. A total unregulated free market between Canada and UAE is not productive for Canada or the other players at the table. That is the bottom line.
This crap about the Canadian gov't loaning money to Air Canada? Is that what you guys bring to the table? You have to be kidding me. So what!! Should we have a close look at how EK/EY is aided by its gov't and then compare that to how AC is aided by its govt? LOL. Give me a break guys. Your gonna lose that one.
By the way, there are others on the planet that have an even better cost footprint than EK/EY. They are the Chinese carriers. And they are similar to EK/EY too in that they are semi-state supported. Its just that their employees work way more than you or I and get paid way less. And their operations are greatly subsidized...just like EK/EY. Perhaps the UAE should offer these guys to set up shop in Dubai and create more "consumer choice" for everyone. If the Chinese wanted this, what would the UAE do? Protect its market? What would be the forum rant then?
Oblasspop, stop behaving like a teenage girl! You don't bring anything productive to this debate except childish insults. With your immaturity, I would be suprised if you are a pilot at all.