Oh dear, it never rains but pours. How about we go back to the good ol days when very senior pilots and very senior engineers had a major say in the day to day running of a airline. Bean counters they ain't, but tech savvy they are. We have tried the experiment of running them with bean counters in charge, and the results are not attractive. In my day if the pilots or engineers had the sh%ts about something, it was generally fixed, now it is farmed out to the cheapest repair man. Seriously, what is going on is the result of cost cutting, the almost destruction of a fine engineering unit, even though Nancy's donks are serviced by RR, it was always QF's policy to having their own engineers looking over their shoulders, now I doubt they have the man power, after pissing off so many fine engineers. Back to basics lads, safety and training/ maint. first, shareholders last.