Sorry Willie - not trying to insult professional instructors at all. I think that from my 14 years in airlines and about the same in the Air Force, what I was trying to get at was that, (with sufficient inward reflection), a good instructor can discover the root of any students problem. Granted it does depend on a decent product in the first place - that is the job of recruitment systems. The idea is if you recruit a suitable candidate, then a sound training system and trainers should be able to produce a sound pilot. Perhaps that more clearly explains the no bad student thing....Agree - SOUND SOPs are the cornerstone of flight safety ( to quote Boeing) but that is the point... they have to be sound , not just rules for the sake of replacing thinking....In my experience the concept of demo direct monitor in airline training is mostly replaced by: ' have a go and I will tell you what you screwed up'. How many instructors have actually demonstrated an EFATO, A rapid decomp, or show me any airline that actually produces say a training video with a text book response to abnormals etc. I know we generally learn best by doing, but sometimes monkey see monkey do works pretty well too. As far as EK training goes, for the most part it is trying to improve the general level of pilots above regulators minimum... but you really need to see the wads of random documents that the guys here have to know inside out and which one supercedes which .. except when they choose not to.. etc to get an idea of how convoluted things have become in what is a pretty easy job. perhaps we could take a leaf from your organisations book? Cheers. WJA
