AF 447 Search to resume

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HazelNuts39

Exactly so, but what could they Say? "We had the ACARS, it was quite an eyeful at the time, but we didn't act"? The release of the document(s) may have been retributive, by a defensive Mx wonk? AF was saying quite a lot after the fact. 447's ACARS profile was part and parcel the Genesis of the system in the first place, to garner resources and planning for mitigative Mx upon arrival. Waiting until ETA completely defeats the format, No? It rather defines the typical approach of "Blame others First". Or in the case of Lightning or Fortes Turbulences, "Blame Things First." Two things come immediately to mind re:121.5. The a/c was disabled relative to antennae, (there was no power), the crew were disabled. Or both. The lack of a message is the most important and glaring problem, at this point. Especially when directed. This is only to say there is no public revelation of comms silence, or activity. As described, the investigation is ongoing, so silence is expected relative to key facts, BEA is not the Press, after all. We should defer to the investigative judgment, for now. Were the CDR/FDR removed from 459 and data dumped?
If not, what a miraculous blunder.

mm43

Thank you for the graphic, it puts a face on what is probably being discussed behind doors. At 02:12, the accident is likely coming to impact. If the a/c (447) turned in either direction, 459 is the likely flight to interrogate for any desperate contact from 447. Why? In turning, it was allowing 459 to get "closer" to their problem, advantageous for reception of a 121.5 ELT at impact. I don't recall the 330's ELT profile, whether it was Pilot activated, or passive. If it activated, the following flight would have received the beacon, for Pilot recognition, or CDR reception and storage. I think this is unaddressed by BEA? Pursuant to my "Privacy" post above, the data could be still sequestered, since the Investigation is ongoing, and the data could be classified as "preferential". Similarly, other crew may be quiet regarding events 447 related. Pilots do that, from time to time. As with the deficiencies relative to ATC, why would this flight not have passive ELT? ELT is intended to alert independently, or so I have always thought. How can an incapacitated crew arm the ELT, one or both? Impact activated, the ELT takes the place of volitional action from a crew, Yes?

thanks indeed,

rgds
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