The trouble is, Wingco, that your emotive language makes me think there is a personal angle to this, which questions the validity of your statements. Why is collecting for the Vulcan "Begging" when collecting for a charity is not? Surely Dr Plemming's salary was decided by others, what is it, anyway? As you say, I don't know the ins and outs of the case, but very little hard fact has appeared in this thread. I'm not even a Vulcan man, four Griffins was my mount!