Aqua5, you've hit a point there. I'm ex coastal, but as a civvy I spent a lot of time in the Pot Shriggly hotel when being reemed out on the 146 sim, where I inadvertantly (as one does) became involved in a couple of Bae staff hoolys. I was totally amazed at the lack of knowledge or interest in the project, people only thinking of their own little gizmo and how long their job would last. I couldn't help thinking this was a scheme just for spending vast amounts of tax-payers money, if it was a private commission, the s--- would have hit the fan years ago.