You guys are a complete embarrassment! Who gives a sh!t about what the public thinks. Since when are we fighting a political war?? You either have a valid argument for a pay rise or you don't!!! Trying to hide actuall numbers to make it look like you're far worse off is disgraceful!!! Firstly, don't you think Cathay will make those figures public when the **** hits the fan?? Secondly, like it or not it is public knowledge! Do you make your real estate agent sign a code of secrecy when you deal with him/her?? NO! Did Cathay make potential candidates sign a code of secrecy when they were here on interviews and were inquiring about the package?? NO! So get over yourselves, if Simon wants to get the figures all he has to do is contact management, there is no need to hunt for that information on PPrune. Absolutely right, you can't teach common sense