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411A, I trust you do not really believe what you post regarding your experience of Flight Engineers. I guess I will just have to leave this topic where it is, agreeing to disagree. One thing we can agree on is that the L1011 would be regarded by most who flew it as being a truly capable aircraft with a great working environment.