SABENA, SWISSAIR, PAN AM. ring a bell? and none of these airlines existed in a country where there was an efficient competitor like ANA is in Japan. If the market dictates that JAL goes away, or becomes JAL light, then that is what will happen. But one thing is for certain, there is not a snowball in hells chance of the Japanese government or taxpayer allowing 485 B744 crews to walk the streets of Narita, if JP express and others are employing Americans(N&S), Europeans, or should i say GAIGIN. Let alone hire new ones.