Kaptin M. you have missed your vocation. You should have been a politician, or a journalist or perhaps a used car salesman or even an accountant. You can selectively quote from my posts until you are pink in the face but it won't change the facts. In my quote I was talking about two individual but similar disputes. In the Australian dispute no one won, but the ones who lost heaviest were the littlest involved and they are still paying either financially or in mental anguish, in the dispute in Hong Kong we are rapidly reaching the same place, a case of deja-vu prevails for me. To be honest I am not sure where you are coming from, and I doubt you do either. Nonetheless, I have enjoyed reading your opinion, distorted as it may be. It's not over but I wish it was. The upcoming GM will spell out the ending. I want common sense and good judgement to win out over blinkered militancy but I have severe doubts about that. It takes a brave man to stand up to his enemy but it takes a braver one to stand against his friends. And for the quiet majority, never forget silence signifies consent.