411, it's very highly likely that the NOT so subtle point I made of my working in a
non-unionised company went way over the top of your head. Or perhaps the pressure of getting that Indonesian airline of your's operational, has drained what little psychometric reserves were left.

Or, on the other hand, the end of your career as a professional pilot has left you envious of those of us still working.
Lecture over.......the point I was making, was that where INDIVIDUAL pilots are protected from by a "representative" when dealing with their employer - over issues such as inequitous, unfair, or biased rostering
Gosh, does that
really happen???!!

- the matter is able to be monitored by a third party. The union!
Yes, I AM paid big bucks - but that doesn't mean that I have to bend over just because the someone else has slipped the roster clerk an extra couple of bucks. Does it?? Or is "Dollar rostering" and "promotion by suction" acceptable work ethics for you,
411A.
If NOTHING else, a union will try to ensure that
each and every pilot they represent is dealt with on an EVEN and FAIR basis, by the company, as opposed to the alternative of having a non-monitored system where days off, allowances, and duty times, are at the sole whim of one or two people.
I have worked under all 3 systems, (i)pure bidline, (ii)$$'s buys your roster, and (iii)straight, "I love/hate you this month" scheduling, and can assure you that the less the involvement that occurs on BOTH sides, the more EFFICIENT and UNDERSTANDING of each other, was everyone!
Shortly, in ONE paragraph you have managed to "shoot yourself in the foot" . For the second time, please allow me to quote you again. Looks like you're on a winning streak - and all in one topic;
. I have never said that the Management won in Australia, I would not use a win/lose relationship in such a matter.
.. followed hot on the heels by this,
Unions must pick their fights or lose.
Hmm, that sense of logic again,
shortly??"
Had you even lightly skipped through the other posts on this forum - and I get the impression that you might perhaps indulge in "selective reading", or myopia,
shortly - you would do yourself a favor by NOT writing blatant mistruths, as you have with the following :"
. The ineffective moderation by the union against vitriolic posts and unsubstantiated lists (Scab and non-union pilots) on their web site.."
..knowing FULL WELL that the scab list was NOT published on the HKAOA's site.
And that in fact the HKAOA publically denounced the publication of that list.