If I may add, eventhough MAS pilots do have relatively good salaries things could have been much better and we would not have lost so many experienced and talented aviators overseas. True, the young uns and newbies are jubilant with the rapid promotion but largely undeserving with their poor level of experience and exposure. With this undeserving status comes a complacent and selfish mindset that explains the core of Malaysia's problems....a vicious cycle. This undeserving group is beholden to the toon kutty's policies and despite what they may spout outwardly, inwardly they are as emotionally insecure as the toon himself.